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Salmonflies in the Ozarks

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12:28 am
March 3, 2010


fiveweight

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I just had a thought (hold the press!) Is there any awareness of salmonflies in the Ozarks? I was just going through some hath charts for a river in Michigan I plan to fish soon and saw the salmonfly listed on a site. I saw one once on the Missouri/Arkansas border, but come to think of it, I've never seen it discussed or included in a hatch chart. At the time I didn't even know what it was beyond being some huge stonefly.

The bug I saw was a black stonefly with a bright orange tummy and neck, definitely a stonefly, and enormous – probably at least 2.5 inches long maybe 3. It was dead along the river bank on Spring River, either at Many Islands or Riverside I can't remember which. I can't imagine an insect living in isolation so there must be some population in that area, and if so probably in other streams.

Once while eating breakfast with Matt Tucker in Mammoth Spring, he told me about a gentleman he knew who taught him how to tie a really big dry fly out of pipe insulation foam with a white or sparkly wing of some sort. Matt said it caught him fish in cold months when nobody would think of using anything like it. The description, now that I think of it, was pretty much like a ginormous stonefly. It wouldn't be a huge leap to compare it to the fly below. Are there Salmonflies in the Ozarks? Why is this never brought up?

11:53 am
March 5, 2010


Gavin

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posts 14

Post edited 11:57 am – March 5, 2010 by Gavin


There are some big black stones in some of our Ozark Streams..The NFoW has a good population of them, and you find them on the Meramec in a few spots. They dont really provide a lot of dry fly action, but big attractor patterns like that can work wonders at times..

Saw the fly that Matt talked about..Its more of a big moth pattern than a stone fly..It  resembles a larg moth more than anything else (Sphinx or a Hawk Moth probably). Black pipe insulation for a big long body, two grizzly hackles for wings and a grizz hackle up front. About 2.5″ long… It catches fish, but its a big leader twisting son of a gun. Cheers.

12:11 pm
March 5, 2010


MattTucker

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The fly that you are referring to was taught to me by Tom Rogers, a fly-fishing guide in Arkansas.  The fly definitely caught fish.  And gavin is right….it is a damn nightmare of a leader twister.  I will see about hunting up a photo of it this weekend and posting it.  Tom always referred to it as a beetle pattern, but call it whatever you want.

Wise has got me fishing alot of stones lately, particularly in the NFOW and 11pt, but have also fished them on the Current and the Meramec as well (although largely used for weight with a dropper) they do catch fish.


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